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This my homage to the late Dutch master. I tried to capture the impossible geometry, sense of space, and even the colours of his works.
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Wed, 5th August, 4:05 PM 2009
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Frodo7
Frodo7 Wed, 5th August, 4:37 PM

You can download the lower case in two separate files here:
Hommage à Escher LC1
Hommage à Escher LC2

I've been working on this project since 21st July. It is still not complete: capitals and other characters are missing. But I couldn't wait any longer. I was also hampered by technical issues. No download possible at the moment, lost a few hours work several times after a failed saving attempt. Thus, I've made the decision to share this work as it is, and iron out the problems later.

You can download the lower case in two separate files here:
<br/><a href="/fontstructions/show/hommage_escher_lc1">Hommage à Escher LC1</a>
<br/><a href="/fontstructions/show/hommage_escher_lc2">Hommage à Escher LC2</a>
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<br/>I've been working on this project since 21st July. It is still not complete: capitals and other characters are missing. But I couldn't wait any longer. I was also hampered by technical issues. No download possible at the moment, lost a few hours work several times after a failed saving attempt. Thus, I've made the decision to share this work as it is, and iron out the problems later.
funk_king
funk_king Wed, 5th August, 4:41 PM

wow. there is no try - only do. and you did brother. wonderful. you've got the geometry and shading down. i think this portrays his style the best - working with geometry or science as the basis but giving it a nice folksy whimsical charm. fantastic.

minimum
minimum Wed, 5th August, 4:45 PM

I just had to sign in to say:

*speechless*

djnippa
djnippa Wed, 5th August, 5:01 PM

Unbelievable. The g & 8 are off the chart.

afrojet
afrojet Wed, 5th August, 5:06 PM

Wow. This is mind-melting. Bravo.

p2pnut
p2pnut Wed, 5th August, 5:31 PM

The 8, the $, the &, the {} ... the whole thing!!!!! It's amazing. The mind boggling geometric, wonderful craziness of it.

There will be many twists and turns on the road to Upper Case, but you have set out on a noble path. You have done well halfling.

jinx
jinx Wed, 5th August, 6:30 PM

This is great. I love it!

aphoria
aphoria Wed, 5th August, 6:40 PM

WOW! This so cool. Nice work.

WOW! This so cool. Nice work.
funk_king
funk_king Wed, 5th August, 7:02 PM

frodo, have you tried stripping a cloned version of everything except the basic 26 and puncuation to see if it will dl? nothing extreme as splitting the set (at least not yet :)

geneus1
geneus1 Wed, 5th August, 7:21 PM

Impressive design and rendering tehnique, Frodo7!

There are many fonts I've held back so that others could share their creations. It was something I decided after hearing that some wouldn't have shared their designs after seeing mine. Throughout the process, I've played a little game of "When is someone going to come up with this?" in regards to public releases compared to my private stash. Uncannily, within the last two months, there have been about ten fontstructions by different fontstructors that similarly match what I have unreleased, ranging from the simple to the most complex. It's an interesting thing to see. Everyone's been doing great work. I'll be sharing these typefaces soon. Your design is the most unexpected I would think to find here. Shocking, really.

This sample is from IsoMatrix, fontstructed in June, 2008.

Impressive design and rendering tehnique, Frodo7!
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<br/>There are many fonts I've held back so that others could share their creations. It was something I decided after hearing that some wouldn't have shared their designs after seeing mine. Throughout the process, I've played a little game of "When is someone going to come up with this?" in regards to public releases compared to my private stash. Uncannily, within the last two months, there have been about ten fontstructions by different fontstructors that similarly match what I have unreleased, ranging from the simple to the most complex. It's an interesting thing to see. Everyone's been doing great work. I'll be sharing these typefaces soon. Your design is the most unexpected I would think to find here. Shocking, really. 
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<br/>This sample is from IsoMatrix, fontstructed in June, 2008.
aphoria
aphoria Wed, 5th August, 7:33 PM

Lest anyone think I'm more weird than I really am...that "fuji" image in my comment above was actually attached to a comment on another font.

How it ended up here as well, I have no idea.

funk_king
funk_king Wed, 5th August, 7:57 PM

@ aphoria - i thought you were just being edgy or esoteric :)

@ geneus - i was just thinking with all this escher-inspired work being released that i'm sure geneus could do a killer interpretation. i wait with baited breath :)

Frodo7
Frodo7 Wed, 5th August, 10:02 PM

Lower case letters have been released for download. I had to split them to make it work. Sorry for the inconvenience. It is an awkward solution, I know. It appears to me, that we suddenly grew out of FS.

Frodo7
Frodo7 Thu, 6th August, 4:18 AM

Thanks for the nice comments and votes.

@funk_king: I learned from you yesterday that some fontstructions are just way too big, and splitting them into smaller parts could be a remedy, though not totally painless. I also reported the problem to FS stuff to no avail. Frankly, I thought my project was doomed, but you saved the day. Thanks for that.

@djnippa: g was not easy. I had to increase the descender to accommodate it. The 8 is a different story. All I wanted to avoid the overused symmetrical version I could have created offhand. But I was not sure others would like it as much as I do.

@p2pnut: &, $ are third and fouth generation glyphs respectively. That means I deemed the previous versions unworthy to include in this first release. My favourite is the * (asterisk). The ß (eszett) also came out very nicely. It preserves the fusion of the long s and a lower case roman s.
The ø from the Danish and Norwegian alphabet gives a new dimension to the stroke.

@geneus1: Well, I don't know what to say. IsoMatrix has an apparent resemblance to my letters, especially the upper case. I have already finished the sketches of those too, and
I'm not going to change them just for the sake to be different. But the full history of this Escher-inspired design goes back to June 2003. Shortly after I saw the book "The Magic of M.C. Escher", the Belvedere, Man with Cuboid, and Waterfall in it, I started to do some drawings of 3D letterforms using cubes as pixels. But I made only a few letters back then. A couple of years later I started to work on this project again, and developed the optimal x-height to avoid the common hexagonal look of the rounded letters. I used Illustrator and simple colours for the different sides, but I could not convert the glyphs to B&W to make them acceptable to the font editor (TypeTool). The advent of FS suddenly opened up new possibilities. It was actually one of your works, Bevelicious, (and Bevel by minimum) that inspired me the most showing what FS was really capable of in the right hands. Had you published IsoMatrix before, it might have discouraged me to work on a similar project. It also might have had a strong influence on my work, too strong perhaps. On the other hand I should thank you for the inspiration of Bevelicious, and you should thank minimum for sharing Bevel with the FS community. Personally, I don't think that having a completed work in the drawer is of much use. It is as if it never existed. And consider the ephemeral lifespan of the average font. So, publish or perish, as the saying goes.

I wonder, why was my design so unexpected to you. The core idea of this paradox geometry preceded Escher, who saw it in earlier works. But he took it to artistic level by populating those dimensions with buildings, human figures and everyday objects. He also greatly improved the concept of using the laws of perspective in such a peculiar way so as to cheat the human eye. Likewise, the typographic idea has been circulating around for quite a while in logotype, pixel art, or even Flash
designs. It's not a surprise, that several people come up with the same idea, since we humans use the same hardware, our brain, our neural networks to create. The near simultaneity of same ideas could be explained by the zillions of visual stimuli raining on us every second, shaping our thoughts, capturing our imagination. Every historical period has a set of stimuli, call it style, trend or fashion. There is a lot of cross-pollination of ideas going on eversince the Web opened the floodgates of information. So it is not a question of IF, but WHEN an idea is to resurface again.

gferreira
gferreira Thu, 6th August, 2:53 PM

Congratulations! FontStruct Staff have deemed your FontStruction worthy of special mention. “Hommage a Escher” is now a Top Pick.

gferreira
gferreira Thu, 6th August, 3:25 PM

Fantastic work, Frodo7. Many beautiful creative solutions, and at the same time very pleasant to read.

Yes, the size limit. Splitting one huge FontStruction into two or more smaller ones is a temporary work-around. We have plans to implement copy&paste between FontStructions, and we might be able to increase the size limit handled by the font generator. So there is hope to see Hommage a Escher in its full glory at some point. :-)

I have one little comment on the design: the horizontal bar of the t - did you try making it go up instead of down?

JoeAllison
JoeAllison Thu, 6th August, 7:53 PM

Truely Superb!

jmarquez
jmarquez Thu, 6th August, 9:21 PM

Wonderfull...

oyrus
oyrus Fri, 7th August, 3:41 AM

1 word: Wow!

SquarePeg
SquarePeg Fri, 7th August, 4:15 AM

Frodo, I agree that an idea can appear in different places, different minds, and at different times, too! And yet the physical manifestations of the idea, the results, can be very different. Check out Toit, a typeface created in 1998. I think yours is superior in many ways. Of course, there was no FontStruct in 1998... :-)

Frodo7
Frodo7 Fri, 7th August, 4:18 AM

@gferreira: Thank you for your comment. Yes, I had a "t" with up-going horizontal bar. It was OK, easier to connect to most other letters, but having a text with it was a bit monotonous. Maybe I could include it as an alternative version, as I did with o and z.

cayo
cayo Fri, 7th August, 5:58 AM

Truly a great fontstruction!
I can only imagine the patience involved, so I hope you take my humble suggestion from a very friendly perspective, Mr Baggins:
If the middle bars (I mean the downside of the p's belly, the upside of the b's belly or the inner loop of the e, etc) would actually touch the main bar, then the form would truly be an impossible 3d figure.
Just give it a thought on my behalf.
You still get a tener from me, for the quality of visual impact is neatly rendered.

Frodo7
Frodo7 Fri, 7th August, 8:12 AM

@cayo - Thank you for your comment. Believe me, I tested that version too. It would certainly enhance the Escher-effect. In the meantime it would disturb the integrity of the vertical stroke.
It is a matter of preference: I wanted my letters to be aesthetically pleasing even at the cost of 3D effects.

@cayo - Thank you for your comment. Believe me, I tested that version too. It would certainly enhance the Escher-effect. In the meantime it would disturb the integrity of the vertical stroke.
<br/>It is a matter of preference: I wanted my letters to be aesthetically pleasing even at the cost of 3D effects.
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Frodo7
Frodo7 Sat, 8th August, 5:34 AM

Swedish, Danish, Norwegian and Icelandic alphabet is fully supported now.

Swedish, Danish, Norwegian and Icelandic alphabet is fully supported now.
SquarePeg
SquarePeg Sat, 8th August, 3:10 PM

This FontStruction keeps getting better and better!

geneus1
geneus1 Sat, 8th August, 7:35 PM

I posted the Isomatrix sample in a congratulatory spirit. Please, don't change a single thing about your original design because of it. It is totally out of respect for having the skill, patience, and sagacity to work on such a sophisticated design because I fully understand what it took for you to achieve it.

I have the same Escher book and have been an amazed admirer for years. Thanks for the kudos on Bevelicious. The release of that fontstruction was meant to pay homage to minimum, who created the shading effect. Just as Framestore pays respect to Funk_King, Glossierre to Williaum, and Slink to afrojet and saberrider.

Re: "completed works in the drawer." They're not so much complete. But yeah, it's like the proverbial tree falling in the forest. But is something being heard via the creative manifestation of other fontstructors? ;-) Personally, it feels like working out in the gym when there's nobody there. No one sees, but I still reap the benefits of the workout. But I think I'm done now. Pursuing influences "too strong" sounds intriguing. Although, holding back was something done with community in mind by allowing others to have their own "Aha!" moments. It gives others the opportunity to discover new techniques internally, which can be more meaningful than having something told to you externally. It was also to satisfy a curiosity in creative synchronicity, while bypassing the ego fulfillment of being the first one to release a particular fontstructed style or technique.

Creative synchronicity happens everywhere and in anything since creativity comes from the same source. It's been seen here on Fontstruct several times. It takes a certain level of technical acumen and perspicacity for it to happen in complexity. I was going to go into a long treatise in Mihaly Csikszentmihalyi's creativity and flow theory, but I'll stick to publishing fonts. The question to publish I wrestle with now is whether it is free or for a fee. I think this is a design worthy of professional consideration. I feel a growing number of fontstructions surpass competitive retail fonts in originality and design. I wonder how top fontstructors feel about that.

Re: unexpectation. For me, your design was unexpected mainly because of the difficulty and complexity required - in concept, time, as well as execution. Most wouldn't take up the time requirement to work at such a large scale, struggling with size proportions, brick conforming and angular alignment, etc. The number of characters you produced was impressive as well. It was also unexpected coming from you in regards to the type of work you've shared. Going from producing very clean text faces to a full-out shaded isometric 3D design is like a quantum leap. A great display of versatility. I actually thought Funk_King would delve into it first as an automatic progression from his Tesselation and Molecular series, which had the foundations of the 3D structure. This comment is turning into a novel, so I'll end it here and get back to fontstructing. Hearty applause to you for developing and sharing this homage.

funk_king
funk_king Sun, 9th August, 1:27 PM

@frodo - you may want to put links to the 2 files that can be downloaded in your description - until this one can be downloaded. your other ones are going to get buried and no one will be able to find them :(

@geneus - enjoyed your treatise :) i do so enjoy reading these comments from our more erudite fontstructors. it makes it seem like i'm doing much more important work than just playing with bricks :) bottom line - frodo7 is one badass. but then, so are you.

SquarePeg
SquarePeg Sun, 9th August, 3:40 PM

Frodo, I too meant my comparison to Toit as a compliment to your FontStruction. The shading alone is outstanding, but so are your characters, which are subtler and easier to read than Toit's (at least in my opinion).

Geneus, I have heard of this book "Flow" before. Now you've piqued my interest and I will look for it.

usarogersbros
usarogersbros Thu, 13th August, 9:19 PM

amazing

Frodo7
Frodo7 Sat, 15th August, 6:08 PM

@SquarePeg - Thank you for your comment. Any comparison to a good commercial font is a compliment in itself. I didn't know about Toit until now, but I've seen a few 3D fonts. The common problem with them, they forgo legibility for a good 3D gimmick.

Frodo7
Frodo7 Mon, 24th August, 9:33 PM

A minor change were made in the title to be grammatically correct: a to à. There are some serious French folk about here on FS, I had to do it. It may broke some links. I am sorry for the inconvenience, in advance.

Gazek
Gazek Wed, 2nd September, 11:56 AM

Amazo-Natic, and Mouth Droppin'!!!

ricardobpm
ricardobpm Tue, 15th September, 6:39 PM

The download link doesn´t work.

Good type.

Frodo7
Frodo7 Sat, 19th September, 2:34 PM

@ricardobpm: Thank you for your comment. You can download the lower case in two separate files here:
Hommage à Escher LC1
Hommage à Escher LC2

Frodo7
Frodo7 Tue, 29th September, 1:49 PM

After more than six consecutive weeks of leading the Top Pick list Hommage à Escher finally slipped down to the second place. Normally, I would not bother to mention it. It had its days of glory, more than any humble designer would want. Every fontstruction seems to have a natural life cycle, and HàE is no exeption. To be honest, I was a bit tired of being on the top for so long, and lamented on it elsewhere in my personal communications.

This is a nice font, not even finished yet, but to put it on the top of a list, 1700+ strong, of selected beauties, looks clearly unrealistic. I would even go so far as to say it doesn't make any sense at all. There are so many brilliant works, Top Picks, Hidden Gems, or yet undiscovered gems, as well as long forgotten ones, that would have had deserved more exposure. This situation, sometimes refered to as the ivory tower effect, is a result of the Reality Distorsion Field of the current rating system. There is very little we can do about. I would even question of the whole concept of measuring and quantifying artistic performance (see Mr. Keating's point on the idea of mathematical literary criticism, Dead Poets Society, a 1989 film starring Robin Williams).

One tiny detail, however, that burns me, is that the changing of places was not achieved by giving more high votes for other fontstructions. Oh no! It was merely done in the last two-three days by adding a few low votes to HàE resulting in a sudden drop of 0.2 of average rating. For a long time this font had no lower rating that 8. Now the chart looks more like Barad-dûr accompanied by the plateau of Gorgoroth. Think about it. It's a lot more effective way to manipulate the ratings with just a few votes.

I wonder if we could do anything to stop the corrupt minds, who think the Top Pick rating is a value above all values including morals.

funk_king
funk_king Tue, 29th September, 3:20 PM

i think your streak was even more remarkable given that the font couldn't be downloaded. so with all due respect to your gracious attitude, hommage rules :) alas, the evil that lurks in the heart of man will manifest however it can. it seems we can battle and defeat it, but it remains slithering about. just continue to produce the exception work that you have and i'm sure the font gods will continue to be kind to you :)

minimum
minimum Tue, 29th September, 5:30 PM

For casual visitors, having Top Picks in rank order makes sense but for people who visit FS daily [or those who never log off (*points to self*)], it does gets monotonous to see the same fonts on the TP list every time. It got so redundant for me that I almost never go to that page anymore, and only visit it when some comment point to it. I also came to disregard the ratings. I used to obsess over every little tenth of a point increase or decrease in the ratings of my (and other's as well) fontstructions. Now I have no idea where they stand. And it surprises me that sooo many of the FSions in the 1700+ TPs have so few raters. I don't understand why people don't rate fonts more often. It takes a simple click as you scroll down the list of Everything list. It's couldn't be easier. Maybe a random order in the TP list would liven things up.

Frodo7
Frodo7 Tue, 29th September, 8:22 PM

@djnippa: Thank you for your comment. I just want to make it clear, that my afternoon lamentation above was not about my font, but rather about some controversial issues related to the current rating system. When I mention the undiscovered or long forgotten gems, I think first and foremost of Tessellation 2, my long time favourite. (Please, don't take my words as cheap flattery, I really mean it without having any collateral interest.) And there are many more breathtakingly brilliant designs that should have been
stationary features of the front page, serving as inspirational guidance to benefit the whole FS community.

@minimum: The Top Pick and the rating system have some practical use, but only in a special frame of reference. These kind of systems were invented and introduced to sort a large number of items and to give a rough guidance of their relative value (e.g. Pop charts, Amazon.com book ratings, stock ratings). For most fontstructions, mainly the doodles, that's fine. For the top 5-10% that reach the artistic level it is meaningless. Imagine to visit the Louvre in Paris, or the Uffizi in Florence and find the paintings and sculptures sorted and
displayed in the following order: 1. Mona Lisa by Leonardo, 9.999 points; 2. La Madonna di San Sisto by Rafaello, 9,998; 3. David by Michelangelo, 9.997, so on and so forth.

I also wrote a short opinion on why are so few votes. Here is an excerpt:

The more votes, the better – I agree with this principle, and any measure that increase the voters turn up is positively welcome. However, we also know (at least since the Bush vs. Al Gore case, 2000) that many people simply do not vote. They walk into the boot and cast an empty ballot. Or they just stay at home. (A clear case for FS “under-vote”: when someone leaves a comment but gives no rating.) An under-vote or a no-vote is very informative. It could tell that
a) people just can’t make up their mind, because too little information is given about the artwork;
b) they don’t know how to vote: no clear guidance was given as to what count as 1,2,3,…10.
c) they don’t trust the system;
d) they don’t belive their vote will count/matter;
e) they think it’s too much fuss about nothing, etc. My point is that these abstainings constitute a large body of opinion, we only have to learn how to listen to. (Blog > Adjusting the rating system, comment-648)

gferreira
gferreira Tue, 29th September, 10:51 PM

@Frodo7: I agree with a lot of the things you've said here and in other threads. The rich catalog of FontStructions needs to be more visible to the outside world and easier to browse. We are aware of this, and we are working on improvements. Things are getting better little by little — it's just a matter of time and patience.

[Also, please remember that this service is provided for free (gratis), and we have limited resources etc. Keeping FontStruct alive and growing is a big challenge.]

Half of the glass is full. We do have several tools to encourage sharing and enable self-publishing — from the CC-licenses and the widget to the 'share' button and Twitter/Flickr integration in the live feed. Anyone can blog about his/her FontStruction(s) elsewhere — typerider and sketchbookB come to my mind as examples —, and we are always happy to tweet or blog about it. There is even a FontStruct Forum now! :-)

I understand there are frustrations here and there, but they are part of the process. Believe me, I have my frustrations here and there too. :-) But then I look at what FontStruct has achieved, and think about all the great work and great people working together here, and it fills me up with pride and inspiration. FontStruct is not the first open-source bottom-up collaborative type foundry, but is certainly the most vibrant, creative and productive one. (What a better example of the power of FontStructor, the talent of FontStructors and the wisdom of the FontStruct community than this very thread?)

edit (30/09/09): added links to blogs.

Frodo7
Frodo7 Wed, 30th September, 1:47 AM

@gferreira: Dear Gustavo, You are absolutely right: the glass is half full. Fontstruct is a wonderful place to be. I had the privilege to witness its development in the last four and a
half months, a relatively brief period of time. The steady improvement of the application / service itself, and the bewildering array of new font designs are colossal achievements you can be very proud of. Fontstruct is a microcosmos with a divers ecosystem of competing and ever evolving creatures (e.g. positrolls). The FS community is a dynamic, prolific, and multicultural one showing a healthy growth, and I am very happy to be part of it. I am sorry if I expressed some impatience (part of my nature is that restless Tookish side:)), it was all for the "betterment" of FS.

Fontstruct Forum: very good tidings. I'll check it out and post my first topic. Similarly, typerider and sketchbookB sound promising.

nusferatu
nusferatu Thu, 5th November, 10:52 PM

wow.. you are the perfectionist! amazing..